Comments on: “Mamma Mia” Movie Made Me Cry http://www.colicinfant.com/blog/jinis-musings/mamma-mia-movie-made-me-cry/ Co-Creating Healthy, Compassionate, Wise Families Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:41:31 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: JINI http://www.colicinfant.com/blog/jinis-musings/mamma-mia-movie-made-me-cry/comment-page-1/#comment-83 JINI Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:21:22 +0000 http://www.colicinfant.com/blog/?p=26#comment-83 Hi All, I've replied to your comments and added some more of my own in a new post: <a href="http://www.colicinfant.com/blog/jinis-musings/why-are-intimate-friendships-so-difficult/" rel="nofollow">http://www.colicinfant.com/blog/jinis-musings/why-are-intimate-friendships-so-difficult/</a> the dialogue continues...... thanks to everyone for posting such great comments!! Jini Hi All,

I’ve replied to your comments and added some more of my own in a new post:

http://www.colicinfant.com/blog/jinis-musings/why-are-intimate-friendships-so-difficult/

the dialogue continues……

thanks to everyone for posting such great comments!!

Jini

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]]> By: Corey http://www.colicinfant.com/blog/jinis-musings/mamma-mia-movie-made-me-cry/comment-page-1/#comment-81 Corey Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:47:38 +0000 http://www.colicinfant.com/blog/?p=26#comment-81 Here is the single and child free gal’s version. I find too that it does seem to be either children or career that keeps people from meeting up regularly. I have a few girlfriends here in London and two of them are like me-not in a relationship and no kids. However, I still don’t seem them that often but I do speak on the phone and e-mail. One of them has a very stressful management role and works long hours. I may see her every two or three weeks. The other friend is such a homebody and on a budget that we rarely see each other but e-mail and speak on the phone often. I tell her she really needs to get out more often-no wonder she is single. Mind you I am out often and I am single. They both want a relationship and children and if they get that then I will probably never seem them. We are all in our forties though so time is running out…. I have another friend who is married and I see her maybe every three weeks. She has a good career, no children and a serious dancing hobby. She is often meeting up with friends-she has a big network and usually flies out every weekend with her hubbie to their holiday flat in Nice so I try to meet up with her in the week and we usually see a movie. My other two friends who are somewhat younger are both married- one with three little ones and the other one is expecting. I rarely see the mom and the other friend is the main person I see almost weekly. I speak to her the most and we do lots of coffee together or movies and shopping. I do know though that this well come to an end when she has her little one. She is so much fun and supportive that her absence will be felt like a big bruise. Out of all those friends I would say I feel closest to two of them. I can confide in both and know they will be there for me. I have known them for over 10 years and met them through work. I feel pretty lucky to have friends at all especially as I live so far away from my own family in Canada but what I am trying to say is that it is also hard being “free” because you are often more alone than those with family responsibilities. I do like my own company but if I have friends who are rarely available then I am pretty much left to my own devices. I am not in a relationship and have no kids so my time is my own-to spend on my own!!! I think I am correct in saying that in Mamma Mia there was only one person in the movie who wasn’t tied down and that was Stellan Skarsgard’s character, the adventurer, the one who had the boat. Everyone else had kids or career. Meryl’s character had raised a child on her own and was trying to get her B&B up and running. I wonder what it was about the movie that spoke to women with children. I wonder what made you all cry. Is it the fact that you can’t just go on the internet and book a holiday to a Greek Island whenever you want? Maybe you identified with Meryl and the fact she did have a child to raise and probably rarely saw her two old friends and that it may be some time before she sees them again? Just wondering. Jini mentioned Tokyo and I idealise the time I spent in Tokyo with Jini and Linda. It was one of the best times of my life. I can’t replicate it. Tokyo was a special place and there was a great ex-pat community who were extremely sociable. I also miss the time I had in Edmonton with Jini and our friends Michael, Dean and Kerry. I felt so inspired by our little group and loved being involved in our photography sessions and going for coffee and cheesecake discussing art and fashion. I don’t have that kind of community here to draw on. Most of my friends now are in finance or healthcare or IT. I still love photography and do my own thing but at the moment I don’t even have a muse. I have to have a Muse!! My last boyfriend was my muse and I got some good shots with him. Some people don’t want to be photographed-how do you find a muse let alone a good friend? Speaking of good friend-Jini is a true friend. When she decided to leave London I felt like she was leaving me. I felt like a child who had their training wheels taken away before it was time. However, I was ready to go it alone as I had been taught how to without even realising I could. Jini was the one person in my life who believed in me and thought I could do whatever I put my mind to if I worked hard enough to achieve it. My own family never gave me that kind of support or belief in myself. I think that should be made mandatory-all parents should provide that-it’s the basics!! Her favourite phrase nowadays to get me to do something is “stop dickin’ around!” I love she hasn’t lost her edge. Anyone would be a fool not to want to be friends with Jini. Okay, I am rambling now Here is the single and child free gal’s version.
I find too that it does seem to be either children or career that keeps people from meeting up regularly. I have a few girlfriends here in London and two of them are like me-not in a relationship and no kids. However, I still don’t seem them that often but I do speak on the phone and e-mail. One of them has a very stressful management role and works long hours. I may see her every two or three weeks. The other friend is such a homebody and on a budget that we rarely see each other but e-mail and speak on the phone often. I tell her she really needs to get out more often-no wonder she is single. Mind you I am out often and I am single.
They both want a relationship and children and if they get that then I will probably never seem them. We are all in our forties though so time is running out….
I have another friend who is married and I see her maybe every three weeks. She has a good career, no children and a serious dancing hobby. She is often meeting up with friends-she has a big network and usually flies out every weekend with her hubbie to their holiday flat in Nice so I try to meet up with her in the week and we usually see a movie. My other two friends who are somewhat younger are both married- one with three little ones and the other one is expecting. I rarely see the mom and the other friend is the main person I see almost weekly. I speak to her the most and we do lots of coffee together or movies and shopping. I do know though that this well come to an end when she has her little one. She is so much fun and supportive that her absence will be felt like a big bruise. Out of all those friends I would say I feel closest to two of them. I can confide in both and know they will be there for me. I have known them for over 10 years and met them through work. I feel pretty lucky to have friends at all especially as I live so far away from my own family in Canada but what I am trying to say is that it is also hard being “free” because you are often more alone than those with family responsibilities. I do like my own company but if I have friends who are rarely available then I am pretty much left to my own devices. I am not in a relationship and have no kids so my time is my own-to spend on my own!!!

I think I am correct in saying that in Mamma Mia there was only one person in the movie who wasn’t tied down and that was Stellan Skarsgard’s character, the adventurer, the one who had the boat. Everyone else had kids or career. Meryl’s character had raised a child on her own and was trying to get her B&B up and running. I wonder what it was about the movie that spoke to women with children. I wonder what made you all cry. Is it the fact that you can’t just go on the internet and book a holiday to a Greek Island whenever you want? Maybe you identified with Meryl and the fact she did have a child to raise and probably rarely saw her two old friends and that it may be some time before she sees them again? Just wondering.

Jini mentioned Tokyo and I idealise the time I spent in Tokyo with Jini and Linda. It was one of the best times of my life. I can’t replicate it. Tokyo was a special place and there was a great ex-pat community who were extremely sociable. I also miss the time I had in Edmonton with Jini and our friends Michael, Dean and Kerry.
I felt so inspired by our little group and loved being involved in our photography sessions and going for coffee and cheesecake discussing art and fashion. I don’t have that kind of community here to draw on. Most of my friends now are in finance or healthcare or IT. I still love photography and do my own thing but at the moment I don’t even have a muse. I have to have a Muse!! My last boyfriend was my muse and I got some good shots with him. Some people don’t want to be photographed-how do you find a muse let alone a good friend?

Speaking of good friend-Jini is a true friend. When she decided to leave London I felt like she was leaving me. I felt like a child who had their training wheels taken away before it was time. However, I was ready to go it alone as I had been taught how to without even realising I could. Jini was the one person in my life who believed in me and thought I could do whatever I put my mind to if I worked hard enough to achieve it. My own family never gave me that kind of support or belief in myself. I think that should be made mandatory-all parents should provide that-it’s the basics!!
Her favourite phrase nowadays to get me to do something is “stop dickin’ around!” I love she hasn’t lost her edge. Anyone would be a fool not to want to be friends with Jini.
Okay, I am rambling now

]]> By: Nicole http://www.colicinfant.com/blog/jinis-musings/mamma-mia-movie-made-me-cry/comment-page-1/#comment-68 Nicole Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:35:34 +0000 http://www.colicinfant.com/blog/?p=26#comment-68 Yeah, I miss that, too. I have a few friends that when we get together, it's as if we've never been apart: there's no gap in the conversation and complete sympathy and interest between us. But we don't actually GET together very often. In that way, the relationships are very different from what they once were. I'll be honest, too: it's partly me. I'm busy with work and routine chore-type stuff and when I actually have time beyond those things, I guess I feel guilty if I'm not spending it with my kids. And maybe a sense of urgency, too. If I mess up, if I miss the time - not just quality, but quantity - it's gone forever. My worst nightmare is that one of my kids ends up a drug addict or an alcoholic or troubled in some other way and it's somehow my fault - I wasn't there. So I guess I don't take the initiative with my friends that often, either....certainly not like we did pre-children. And to some extent, I'm okay with that. But does the thought ever cross my mind: I hope you still HAVE friends when the kids are grown and gone? It does. And I look back and miss the carefree-ness (I know that's not a real word) of earlier days. I just don't know how to get some part of that back - or indeed, if I can. Yeah, I miss that, too. I have a few friends that when we get together, it’s as if we’ve never been apart: there’s no gap in the conversation and complete sympathy and interest between us. But we don’t actually GET together very often. In that way, the relationships are very different from what they once were.

I’ll be honest, too: it’s partly me. I’m busy with work and routine chore-type stuff and when I actually have time beyond those things, I guess I feel guilty if I’m not spending it with my kids. And maybe a sense of urgency, too. If I mess up, if I miss the time – not just quality, but quantity – it’s gone forever. My worst nightmare is that one of my kids ends up a drug addict or an alcoholic or troubled in some other way and it’s somehow my fault – I wasn’t there. So I guess I don’t take the initiative with my friends that often, either….certainly not like we did pre-children.

And to some extent, I’m okay with that. But does the thought ever cross my mind: I hope you still HAVE friends when the kids are grown and gone? It does. And I look back and miss the carefree-ness (I know that’s not a real word) of earlier days. I just don’t know how to get some part of that back – or indeed, if I can.

]]> By: Casey http://www.colicinfant.com/blog/jinis-musings/mamma-mia-movie-made-me-cry/comment-page-1/#comment-64 Casey Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:51:32 +0000 http://www.colicinfant.com/blog/?p=26#comment-64 Jini, I completely understand how you feel ! I too felt lost & so far from who I was prebabies. Its very hard to get through it without saying goodbye to your former self. I think its part of becoming a parent...for me anyhow. I was travelling, clubbing, singing in various bands & in the studio. I was very busy & wonderfully selfish ! I wasn't aware of how completely isolating & lonely being a Mom can be; no time for yourself, not enough sleep EVER, no thankyous for all the work we do. I try to let my friends in on the truth, motherhood is very hard & we all mourn our old lives...yes, I love my children & they are the best thing I have done with my life but I miss my freedom too. I have tried really hard to go out with friends, do things JUST for me & maintain my relationships with my girlfriends. Not always easy to do ! I have a great guy that makes me do these things...I told him once that if I didn't get to have these outlets I would go crazy & take the whole family with me !!!! I also make him go hang with his friends at least once a week. He plays in a band & I really encourage him to keep being creative. It works well because he then makes me find a creative outlet also ! Know that you are not alone in your pain & I really related to what you have written. I think we need a mom night, no kids & good wine. Lets try to organize a night for the grade 1 moms to hangout.....Mondays are good for me. take care Casey Jini,
I completely understand how you feel ! I too felt lost & so far from who I was prebabies. Its very hard to get through it without saying goodbye to your former self. I think its part of becoming a parent…for me anyhow. I was travelling, clubbing, singing in various bands & in the studio. I was very busy & wonderfully selfish ! I wasn’t aware of how completely isolating & lonely being a Mom can be; no time for yourself, not enough sleep EVER, no thankyous for all the work we do. I try to let my friends in on the truth, motherhood is very hard & we all mourn our old lives…yes, I love my children & they are the best thing I have done with my life but I miss my freedom too.
I have tried really hard to go out with friends, do things JUST for me & maintain my relationships with my girlfriends. Not always easy to do ! I have a great guy that makes me do these things…I told him once that if I didn’t get to have these outlets I would go crazy & take the whole family with me !!!! I also make him go hang with his friends at least once a week. He plays in a band & I really encourage him to keep being creative. It works well because he then makes me find a creative outlet also !
Know that you are not alone in your pain & I really related to what you have written. I think we need a mom night, no kids & good wine. Lets try to organize a night for the grade 1 moms to hangout…..Mondays are good for me.
take care
Casey

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